[quote=King Brown] "Tailoring loads to chokes for upland have been most satisfactory for me over the last 70-plus years."

Actually King, using spreader loads in a fixed choke gun is "Tailoring loads & chokes for upland". That is the whole point of the exercise.

BTW spreader loads have improved in the last "70-plus years" from the old style loads with the cardboard separators but a wild "flyer" well out of the pattern can happen with conventional shot loads as well thus my feeling that you were repeating a "silly" 2nd hand comment from an experienced hunter & dog man.