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Can anyone help me with info on the below trigger of a Greener 12 bore? I don't have any pics of the water table or barrel flats, so I don't know when it was made. Seeing the single trigger makes me hesitate on getting the gun. How are Greener's single triggers and how is this type - any info on it's design and purpose?
Sincerely, Patrick
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As far as I can remember I never saw anything like it, very interesting. I'm sure someone will have a clue.
With kind regards, Jani
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Just as a wild guess I'm thinking rocking the lower portion of the trigger may be the selector for the firing order. That is shift the finger up to fire one bbl first or down to fire the other one first.
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I think 2-piper is right, didn't some Italian mfg,offer this type of trigger as and option for barrel selection on and over/under! Best, Craig
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Pat', that is interesting.Never seen one like that . Beretta tried a similar type of trigger in the '70s (?) on some o/u guns, same kinda idea.I think the upper groove was for the top bbl n the the lower for the bottom, but It didn't seem to catch on.I have read Graham Greeners book a couple of times, but don't remember seeing anything like that .What kind of serial # range? I bet someone here will probably know a bit about it.. cheers franc
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Is there any indication it is original with the gun and not a later addition?
When an old man dies a library burns to the ground. (Old African proverb)
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odd shaped trigger guard, too - seems a bit cramped
Last edited by Doverham; 08/08/13 09:29 PM.
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I have seen a trigger like that before, but it was on an orphaned trigger plate for an LC Smith. As I recall, the trigger was patented and I looked up the patent. The one I saw belonged to Bill Winters in MD.
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Looks like a working variant on the S. J. Wallis patent of 1892. (See page 74, for 1892, of Patents for Invention Small Arms 1889-1900, Armory Publications.) Pull up one barrel fires, pull down and the other goes off.
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Also take a look at the Thompson patent for 1897 on page 90 of Vol III of The British Shotgun by Ian Crudgington & David Baker.
Superbly researched book by the way. Anyone interested in British guns should have a copy.
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