Thanks Mike. I have your fellow Alaskan's book, but I would love to try some sabots in it. The brass loads were never shot in this rifle. The 4756 load was first tried in Win. AA plastic shells, so the previous owner never bothered to try the the brass shells. I have 11 ga wads for the brass, but since the bullets from the custom mold shoot well and were intended for plastic shells that looks like the right way to go. It just seems to me it would be fun to see if I can get it to shoot with sabots.