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Guys:

Just a heads up. If you have been thinking about buying an Arrieta, you might want to do it sooner than later. Now it makes no difference from which Arrieta importer that you buy from. So consider this a public service announcement.

Arrieta has decide to drop their two least expensive models, the 557 and the 570. So at the end of the year the entry level gun will push a shade under $7,000.

Regards,

John Boyd
Quality ARms
Houston, TX

If uncle Ben quits printing money the value of a Euro could crash so I watch for a big currency help. Watch out! I think a Obama drone just went over.

bill

That price increase is interesting in light of what we read about the serious economic problems in Spain. Unemployment is at 24%, and they are in a major recession.

There is much in this world I do not understand.

I'm glad I already own an Arrieta.

Six years and six trillion dollars later and we are still not out of the woods. If you have cash money now and want to buy something you need to get moving. Many gun makers just hanging on now will be very hard pressed if the worlds economy slows down again.

There is no safe haven for money. Gold is off 250 plus from its peak, bonds are paying nothing and the market is running on fumes it looks like. Land is king if it generates an income and you can afford the taxes. Maryland is threatening to tax us based on potential runoff. Call it a runoff tax if you like. My land is on one of the largest sand bars in the world. Runoff is measured in cups not buckets and they still want to tax the land owners. Perhaps if their voters were owners not renters they see things differently. So if you have money and want to buy do it now. The future is foggy at best but nice guns will always be welcome.

John,

Thanks for the heads-up.

Everyone should keep in mind that when the new Arrieta's go up in price. They will drag the prices for the used guns up along with them.

My bet is a 557 or a 570 on the market right now, will look like a real bargain when hunting season rolls around in 2014.

According to the French President Hollande the crisis in the euro zone is over . Oh a pig has just flown past my window .
Seriously though the Spanish economy like that of most of those counties in the euro are in serious trouble and I suspect it will get worse ,many companies will fold and it will be long time before things get better . If you want to buy a Spanish gun may be a visit to the factory could be advantageous ?

I'll second that! Just as the entry level Garbi values escalated when they were discontinued the same will happen with the Arrietas.

I'm going to disagree. The simple fact is fewer hunting licenses are sold every year. Fewer people hunt, fewer people buy guns, (save pistols and black guns, and that well should dry up sooner, rather than later) and everyone who wants an entry level, or better, Spanish gun can be well served by the secondary market, especially in 12 gauge.
I don't see it. My humble (and free) opinion is there exist too many Spanish makers, now, and demand won't go up when there are fewer of them. Europe is a mess, and when the full weight of the fiscal policies of the last 6 years begin to bear down on the feeble economy in the US, we will be in the same shape. I fear that what is coming down the road here in the US will make the Japanese "lost decade" look like a picnic in the park. It won't matter one bit what a Spanish gun's price went up to, when the US dollar is worth nothing.
Good luck.

Best,
Ted

How much of Arrieta's output is for their domestic market? I suspect not too much. This looks like a sound business decision - the global economy is such that discretionary spending by the middle class has been gutted. Why make guns for people who have to save up for them when they can make guns that are more expensive (higher profit, too) for people who will just write a check?

I recently returned from a visit to H&H in London - their business is booming and orders for their bespoke guns is higher than ever before. People with money have money and that's where the manufacturers and vendors of discretionary goods are moving. The amount of serious money sloshing around is enormous and it's highly concentrated. The past 12 years years have seen the largest transfer of wealth from average people to the wealthy that the world has ever seen and the market is responding. I think Arrieta's decision might be just one small example of this.

Ted is also right about the number of hunting licenses declining each year. I don't think that's all cultural aversion to hunting - I suspect a lot of that is due to increased costs of hunting, fewer available dollars among the people who traditionally were the hunters and also less available time as wages drop and hours worked increase.

But the carriage-trade makers and vendors are doing very well both in the USA and abroad. The Japanese may have had a "lost decade" but I think Tokyo is still #1 in Louis Vuitton sales!