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barrel mounting underlayed with German silver (nickel silver)

Regards,
Wolfgang

Nice to look at:

http://jagdwaffen.blogspot.de/2013/01/zundnadel-doppelflinte-system-berger.html

Reards,
Wolfgang

Um, hum. So silver and not copper like the Belgians?


1903 Listing for Witten founded 1854 - at one point 1750 workers

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

Raimey,

What is this: Lauflager mit Neusilberblech ausgelegt?


Barrel bedded with �Neusilberblech�

Neusilber: German Silver or Nickel Silver

(an alloy of copper, nickel and zinc)

Blech: sheet metal


it means that either: the barrel is bedded with �Neusilberblech�
similar to bedding barrels of target rifles in the 1970�s with fibreglass
which I think is unlikely

Or

the receiver was adorned with �Neusilberblech� (as opposed to Gold or Silver)


Also: Neusilberlot = Hartlot = hard solder



regards from England

G�nter
NRA Life 1974


Edit: sorry, crossed answer with Wolfgang

Somehow that doesn't sound like actual bedding but more like the brazing of the tubeset or tubes to the lumps?

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

that was my first thought - but the reference is specifically to 'Blech' which is sheetmetal not solder

rgds
G�nter

Hum, can you draw me a picture?

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

perhaps oldfarmer can have a closer look at the rifle and tell us whether there is inletting with german silver to be seen anywhere.
It should contrast clearly from other metals

As I said, I also assumed that 'brazing' was the likely meaning but the 'Blech' confuses me there.

Regards

G�nter
NRA Life 1974

Raimey,

Apologies!
one should read the thread before answering

this has of course nothing to do with oldfarmer but a text you posted:







2nd para.: A double gun, percussion system, tube of best quality, Damast Leclerc AND BRAZED WITH TIN; the stock of spanish walnut and the receiver(either bedded or adorned)with german silver (sheet), 85 Thaler (12 � 25 sh)

So now we know that the 'German Silver' reference does most likely not refer to the brazing, as that is already separately mentioned.

And now I shall have a break and take the dog for a walk


Regards

G�nter
NRA Life 1974

Gunter,Raimey,
I didn't see the question about nickel silver until now. It's hard to say what is meant w/o the gun "in hand".This material can be used in hard soldering( as can other materials)which is a brazing process,or in inlays( as can other materials).The fact that they mentioned sheets does not preclude the use in joining the lugs to the barrels. Walter Grass told me that when Heym started new production after the war, materials were in short supply and they used cartridge cases hammered into sheets.We sometimes only have advertisements to provide information, but they are sometimes mislealing.A lot of gunsmithing "lingo" is "terms of art",which are sometimes misapplied in advertisements,and a lot of times mistranslated.Normally,joining the lugs would be done with "hard solder",and joining the tubes/ribs, would be done with "soft solder"( lead/tin mix),so both could still be used.

Mike