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Interesting thread, INMHO there are only two MASTERS of case colour hardening, St ledger in Birmingham, UK and Schilling in Austria. Doug Turnbull in the US is good but you have to ask for "subdued" colours, some of his stuff comes out looking like a rainbow ! Cyanide coloring I think looks poor, best Spanish gus get sent to St Ledger (as do Hollands, Purdey and Boss). The metallurgy of an action also dictates what can be done. I had a 6.5 x 54 custom rifle made from an old Greek military mannlicher, to see the whole story click on this link http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=126684&an=0&page=3#Post126684At the end we could not case harden parts of the action as the Rockwell measurements were off the scale  Still, interesting, best
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Mike, I think you can add a third to the row of fine case hardeners: Max Ern is a Master Gunmaker here in Germany and his work is well known under the best gunmakers because he is doing their color hardening as well.... have a look: http://max-ern.com/english/bunthaerten.htmhere some examples just pictured:     Kind Regards, Wolfgang
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Interesting thread, INMHO there are only two MASTERS of case colour hardening, St ledger in Birmingham, UK and Schilling in Austria. Doug Turnbull in the US is good but you have to ask for "subdued" colours, some of his stuff comes out looking like a rainbow ! Cyanide coloring I think looks poor, best Spanish gus get sent to St Ledger (as do Hollands, Purdey and Boss). The metallurgy of an action also dictates what can be done. I had a 6.5 x 54 custom rifle made from an old Greek military mannlicher, to see the whole story click on this link http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=126684&an=0&page=3#Post126684At the end we could not case harden parts of the action as the Rockwell measurements were off the scale  Still, interesting, best In the link to Nitro Express, your gunsmith mentions that he could do a French grey finish from almost in the white to charcoal. How would he do that? I know some scrub down a casehardened finish, but in your case that would not be possible. Thanks.
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Mike, I think you can add a third to the row of fine case hardeners: Max Ern is a Master Gunmaker here in Germany and his work is well known under the best gunmakers because he is doing their color hardening as well.... have a look: http://max-ern.com/english/bunthaerten.htmhere some examples just pictured:     Kind Regards, Wolfgang Gunwolf, true, that is very nice work, a new name to me , thanks, Mike
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Gunwolf, Thank you for the brilliant photos. The guns look as good as any London best gun. The engraving is top notch. Could you please tell us more about Max Ern guns? I have been going through their website. Mike, I think you can add a third to the row of fine case hardeners: Max Ern is a Master Gunmaker here in Germany and his work is well known under the best gunmakers because he is doing their color hardening as well.... have a look: http://max-ern.com/english/bunthaerten.htmhere some examples just pictured:     Kind Regards, Wolfgang
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Max makes the finest single shot break open rifles in the world IMHO. Top notch work all around and a very nice gentleman as well.
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There was a very nice article on the Ern gun making family (father, mother, son) and their unique lock mechanism in Shooting Sportsman a few months ago.
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Max and family are displayers at the SCI show and are a real delight to meet and visit with so if you have a chance to attend be sure to look them up!!
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