All I can find is about Darnes or Charlins while there are other sliding breech guns without an illustrious pedigree that appear to be very serviceable. I'm looking for a bargain shooter that is not a money pit. A 16 or 20 gauge sliding breech gun looks like a good way to chase Woodcock here in Texas, as there is a lot of walking and little shooting, a light gun, tough gun is the ticket. A little shooting is better then the no shooting presently enjoyed while hunting quail. The quail in Texas are not likely to recover in my lifetime.