>>>I have the same results with my Greener, but I still am curious about the results these guys are getting with their "pixie dust"....Geo<<<
Geo, I've never heard anyone try to say that lead or the Extended Range that Joe shoots will not kill turkeys; of course it will. The "pixie dust" just gives you the chance to do some things that can't be done with lead, like turkey hunt with a .410 and make clean kills at 40 yds. In the end, its all just a hobby and trying new things is part of it to me. Beats playing golf.
One thing I'd point out is that shooting a turkey is different from most game animals. When shooting a turkey, I don't want to put even one shot into his body if I can help it. I want the load to hit him in his central nervous system, in other words, his head and neck, and punch holes thru it. The holes don't have to be big; they just need to go thru the CNS and you have a dead turkey. They don't have to expand or transfer energy - just punch a hole in him, and the more holes the better.
When shooting a deer or almost anything else, its totally different. You are taking body shots and you do want your pellets or bullet to expand or transfer the energy to the animal. This could start another big argument, but I deer hunt with a .308 and handloaded Nosler Ballistic Tips. Many folks hate them, but I have had only good results with them. They put gigantic holes in the deer and he is nearly always dead on the spot.
I did some testing with tss buckshot for the guy that sells it. I hadn't shot a deer in 30 years with buckshot, but I agreed to shoot one for him just to see how it performed. I think the load had about 40 pellets of 18g/cc shot in the 3" 12 gauge load. I shot a doe at 30 yds and it punched 40 little holes all the way thru her and dropped her on the spot. Still, I wasn't all that impressed with it. On a longer shot, I think you would get penetration, but maybe a poor blood trail if the deer wasn't hit solidly enough to anchor him there.
Other hunters have had good luck using the dense shot on ducks and geese. Again, its the penetration that usually brings them down, and from all I've read its much better than steel. I doubt its a lot better than lead for waterfowl, but lead is no longer legal. But for most, the tss is just too expensive for duck hunting.
My belief is that its an excellent shot for turkeys, but probably has few other practical uses. I hope this helps in satisfying your curiosity about it. If you wanta know more, go to the Gobbler Nation site and look in the handloading section. All sorts of info there.
Well, you guys have completely trashed my thread on finding the perfect turkey gun.
Joe, I'm gonna save that pic and use it in our battle to eliminate the fall season in AL. We almost had it eliminated, and then the henkillers managed to get 20 days put in for 5 counties. A massacre like that would not be legal in AL, but that sure doesn't stop many of them from doing it.
Return them at the end of your fall season. You game?
) lead pellet connect with bone and deform so what.....to me means it's impacted all it's energy on the target.