One of my Great-grandfathers shot an L.C. Smith 12 ga. Trap grade with 2 barrels. Still have it. Also still have a 20 ga. field. My fathers grandfather raised him and passed both guns to him plus some rifles now scattered among family. My father shot trap with a Model 12. He could hit a dime thrown up with a 22 pump also Winchester, I think my brother has it. My father also owned a 20 ga Citiori that he loved to duck hunt with, that my brother-in-law uses. Now that would be nice, killing ducks with something that didn't kick like a mule.