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Paris proofs for sure. I wonder if the RR(reverse R) is for something like Rene Gastinne Renette?

Also, I wonder if C.G. Paris is Charles Galand:

http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbt...true#Post170720
I believe the scattergun in the above thread also wears a C.G. Paris stamp.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

We normally think of European guns having their chambers designated in mm's as 65mm, 70mm etc but this one quite obviously doesn't have 6.5mm (.256") chambers. Was it common to mark the chamber length in centimeters or did someone just stamp a decimal at the wrong place?

According to my 1976 edition of Wirnsberger the gun has both Paris (backwards E combined with P) and St. Etienne (crown over PT) proof marks, or am I somehow mistaken.
Steve

Steve, the crown over PT is St Etienne--Paris should be a star over. But that's not the equivalent of the EP. That would be the crown between palm branches, which is usually seen on the barrels of a St Etienne gun right in front of the flats. I don't see that on this gun. But it is a bit odd that PT and PS are under a crown rather than a star, because the star should be the Paris smokeless proof.

There's something else strange on this gun. In one of the early photos, there's a gap from the front of the flats to the forend lug. In another one, and also later on, there's a large chunk of metal there, with 16.8 and the backwards E plus P Paris proof. I'm confused!

L. Brown.. I think it is just the way the pictures appear. Since the barrels, lugs and monoblock seem to be all one piece there really isn't a rib (per se) under or above the barrel, is is just deeply milled between the barrels.

What catches me as strange is that the first time I mounted the gun I thought it has a Mid Bead half way up the barrel that I hadn't noticed but in fact with teh "Plume" on the Breech end and front bead set way down between the barrels is creates an optical illusion making it seem the front bead is much closer than it actually is.

It is going to be very interesting shooting this gun since it appears the barrels will actually obscure the sight picture as compared to a SXS where the Rib actually puts the front bead above the barrels. Of course I shoot so poorly it won't make any difference.... LOL

Another couple of weeks and it should be nice enough here to venture out to the range so see how it shoots.

Any additional thoughts folks have will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!!!
MNDon

MNDon,

My shootings awful, it used to be alot better but... long story. Anyhow, the first thing you should do is check the gun for point of impact. Here's an article I wrote for the 410 website that you might find useful http://www.fourten.org.uk/st_patterning.html

No sense in wasting a lot of shots on a poor fitting gun.

Steve

Steve,

Thanks that is excellent advice the a great article. I will make sure to try this first before heading to the trap range.

MNDon

Thats a great Gun for the price, lovely.Anyone know what the "Rectifie" stamp on both side of the extractor stem on the bbl flats means?
Repair, as in rectify ?, though I have no clue, just wondered.
Its sweet
cheers
Franc

That usually refers to choked barrels. It means regulated chokes. Not they ever marked the amount of constriction on most French guns.

Pete

Pretty rare, Pete--although I have seen "plein" (full) and "lisse" (cylinder), as well as the marking for the dispersion rifling (which some people mistakenly interpret as being a slug barrel). But not very often.