Thanks again Skratch. Yes I am Lucky in having some great friends. And this came from just a casual talk with with a previous member now deceased JD Steele(Joe Hartz) and was talking about a 1878 WR action I was going to put together and was thinking about 25-35 or something else in 25 cal. He said package in the mail fot a 25-20SS in case you want to go that way. I did go with the 25-35 WR. But now thinking it might be nice to do something in 25-20SS. Due to the gift. Whitey