I wonder how much an under six pound gun can be lightened by turning the stock like the Thomas Turner lightweights were done? Of course, my 4 3/4 pound Francotte 28 gauge will do anything the 2" 12 gauge will do and it is at least a half pound to a pound lighter. We had an Arrieta 2" gun for sale in a gun store where I worked, but I was a bit naive and didn't buy it. It was a wonderful gun.