I've owned several of the Arrieta 2" guns and they both weighed in at 5 pounds 14 ounces with 27" tubes. I have to say that both of them threw the best and most even patterns I've ever seen with 7/8 ounce loads and they were deadly on grouse. They were the only 12 gauge guns I've ever hunted grouse with and I can honestly say they didn't feel like a 12 in the grouse woods. May just be my imagination, but with the short shot string the grouse seemed to be hit harder than with my 20's or 28's. The balance was near perfect with those 27" barrels and skeet and IC chokes. Selling those guns was a very dumb move on my part, one of many I'm afraid!