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Nice effort on the images. The reason I inquired about the length is that Daly advertised/touted that his frame had more bearing surface being something akin or similar to a pigeon gun. 65mm was the typical length of the water table of the Daly Gun and I for one would say that this passed thru the Lindner shop. Was it that the dimension for typical boxlocks was 56mm?? I don't think we are positive of the frame source but evidence is pointing to a few makers and sometimes the frame filer's initials are on the crossbar/Purdey lockup seen in the well, or in the well itself. I wonder what the lowest Daly Gun with H.A. Lindner's crowned crossed pistols control mark might be. I'm curious what Ken's take on this might be now. Without a doubt, this is THE best site for multi-barrelled sporting weapons. It is searchable and the knowledge base of the members is quite deep.
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Apparently I have my frame size dimensions incorrect and for sub 10 bores the dimension was 56mm with the standard being 48mm on a boxlock breechloader while the sidelock was 62mm. Not sure on the 10 bores at the moment but I did check a Sauer/Manhattan Arms from a little later and the dimension was right at 60mm, still 5mm shorter than the Daly Gun.
Ok all you Daly Gun fans, what is the lowest serial number with H.A. Lindner's crowned crossed pistols control marks?
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Forgot to note the possibilities for the the initials EW might be E. Werner, E. Wagner or E. Wolf. I'd say E. Werner has the highest probability. At some point there was an E. Wahl of Zella Sankt Blasii but not sure when he hung out his shingle. E. would equate to something like Edmund, Ernst, etc. Many of the subcontractors hung out their gunamking shingle about the same time like Albert Stobbe in 1865 and Emil Eckoldt in 1876. I would expect that E.W. was at the end of his tenure as a gunsmith in 1877 as I don't recall it on later examples.
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It would appear to me the length of the Action flat in the pic with the Stanley tape is falling dead on the 2˝" mark. 2˝" converted to metric = 63.5mm.
65mm = 2.559", only .0035" (less than the thickness of a sheet of 20lb printer/copy paper) shy of 2 9/16" (2.5625").
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External clean up suggestions here, but the gun certainly deserves an internal check and clean by a doublegun specialist smith http://www.lcsmith.org/faq/cleangun2.html
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Wow. Truly great info from everybody. It's greatly appreciated and I thank you all. How would you put a value to something like this with all the unknown info? I have no intentions of ever selling it but what could it be worth?
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