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We've all had the opportunity here to express our opinions regarding honing pitted barrels, and I am of the pro-honing school (when safe wall thickness allows) naively assuming there must be a reason new guns come with shiney bores, and that the Birmingham Proof House must have some rationale for requiring honing of pitted barrels before re-proof.
I was recently given a 1913 Sterlingworth with several linear areas mid-barrel of what seemed to be superficial furrows, a crescent moon deeper pit about 1/3 of the bore 6" from the muzzle, and marked roughness of the choke area. I have a digital bore camera but could not obtain decent images. The chamber was still 2 5/8" and bore .724.
SO off to Briley with instructions to hone the barrels to .729 and open the chokes slightly. Briley was able to completely remove any trace of pitting by honing to .727 - that is only .0015".
Take home message for me (and I could still be confused)
1. Despite looking down lots of barrels, I'm not at all good at estimating depth of pits, and even with a bore camera.
2. Very little metal may need to be removed for a 'mirror' bore.
3. It is certainly possible that I've accomplished nothing but feeding into my OCD smile and that the barrels will be easier to keep clean.

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Drew,

I'm curious if you know what the original wall thickness was? Not that .0015" will make any difference....


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I have not invested in a wall thickness apparatus, and from the looks of those available I don't have the mechanical appitude to make it reliably work frown but clearly at .724 it was the original bore.

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Drew, who did your honing?

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Briley, and in less than a week

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Originally Posted By: Drew Hause
We've all had the opportunity here to express our opinions regarding honing pitted barrels, and I am of the pro-honing school (when safe wall thickness allows) naively assuming there must be a reason new guns come with shiney bores, and that the Birmingham Proof House must have some rationale for requiring honing of pitted barrels before re-proof.
I was recently given a 1913 Sterlingworth with several linear areas mid-barrel of what seemed to be superficial furrows, a crescent moon deeper pit about 1/3 of the bore 6" from the muzzle, and marked roughness of the choke area. I have a digital bore camera but could not obtain decent images. The chamber was still 2 5/8" and bore .724.
SO off to Briley with instructions to hone the barrels to .729 and open the chokes slightly. Briley was able to completely remove any trace of pitting by honing to .727 - that is only .0015".
Take home message for me (and I could still be confused)
1. Despite looking down lots of barrels, I'm not at all good at estimating depth of pits, and even with a bore camera.
2. Very little metal may need to be removed for a 'mirror' bore.
3. It is certainly possible that I've accomplished nothing but feeding into my OCD smile and that the barrels will be easier to keep clean.
Hey there Drewbie-- with a strong machine shop background, I am somewhat familiar with most of all the gauges and fixtures used for barrel work- but an OCD gauge is a new one for me. Care to elucidate a tad bit more- maybe some good close photos as well? Muchas Gracias- El Zorro

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I have a 20 ga. that has some very minor pitting and roughness. It patterns both barrels to the same point of impact, and also to the point where I aim. While I would like a perfectly smooth bore, it is a concern that honing might change either or both of these. Right now I'm leaning toward "If it ain't broke don't fix it" Anyone had honing change the performance of their gun for the worse? Or does it usually not change?

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Beagle: honing and choke work usually go together, and I've had two guns with the POI altered after opening the chokes; one shot a full pattern low and left after a local smith opened the left barrel from .040 to .020 frown Briley was able to correct the problem (on the pattern board) but I never had confidence in the gun again and sold it.
Bottom line: have an expert do the work.

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Originally Posted By: Drew Hause
Beagle: honing and choke work usually go together, and I've had two guns with the POI altered after opening the chokes; one shot a full pattern low and left after a local smith opened the left barrel from .040 to .020 frown Briley was able to correct the problem (on the pattern board) but I never had confidence in the gun again and sold it.
Bottom line: have an expert do the work.
Well bless my stars, here we go with another Akron-hymn-- What does Hawaiian wallpaper paste- aka- POI- have to do with barrel honing- and as a stout Irish Catholic Lad, for the by as the 17th O'St. Patty's is a loomin' , how does indeed one o Fr. Michael's Sunday Mass Homilies tie in here-- a prayer for the NBD (nominal bore dia.) of the pipes in St. Patrick's of Parnell blessed Wurlitzer-??


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