I've obviously struck a chord here. Glad to see so many grouse hunters still out there. After considering my options and not finding exactly the right 12 (well, I came close with an Army & Navy marked Webley & Scott that tips the scales at 6lbs5 w/28 tubes and a 14 3/4 LOP) I finally settled on a British 16 with fairly neutral cast that weighs 5lbs13. I looked at lots of guns, from 2" 12s to a number of 16s, but the money/fit combination just wasn't there.

nca 225: If I were to shoot an American gun it would likely be close to the Fox you described. But, alas!...most are too short for me.

Last edited by Lloyd3; 02/21/13 05:10 PM.