Chief: I think that most of the English boxlocks that I have run across over the years were W&C Scott (& most have had other folks names on them). I have heard that some of the later models weren't as well finished as the earlier versions, and I do see some on-line (at Cabela's, gunsinternational.com, etc.) that sound a bit heavier than what I would want, but yes, the non-Turkish versions are exactly what I'm talking about. You will pay more for them in sub-gauges (because fewer were built), and by-all-means, handle them first. Haunt some of the bigger regional gun shows and see what you find. Alot of the guns that have been over here for a while will likely have had their chambers extended to allow for use of American shells, so be cautious of someone doing a shoddy job. The real trick is to find someone who can give you the barrel wall measurements for the gun you're considering. This would be a requirement for me on any gun that I was looking to buy. My personal minimum wall thickness would be 20 thousanths of an inch (in either fluid steel or damascus). More is certainly better. Look for a weight, chokes, and a balance point that works for you and go from there. When a gun feels right, you will just know it. In summary, I guess the mantra needs to be "suitable dimensions and weight, with good barrels".

Last edited by Lloyd3; 02/10/13 11:37 PM.