It has plenty to do with turning back the grabbers. To denigrate members who work diligently to thwart the grabbers, on the basis of their political inclinations, is self-defeating. There's enough cocksureness in foul-stocked minds here to close off the cooperative spirit we need to bring others to our side. The grabbers in Canada are emboldened by current circumstances to be seeking advantage. We'd lose our reasoned high ground if we engaged publicly in partisan bickering as it's done on this board. Underestimating adversaries, believing god favours true believers, is the surest way I know to lose.