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Some states take gun laws more serious than others........thank God........

Richard Henry Lee
Signer of the Declaration of Independance.
There is simply no question as to the intent of the 2nd Amedment. It is not about hunting, It is not about breaking clay targets, It is not about collecting antique guns. When the SHYSTERS destroy the intent of the 2nd Amendment then anything at all related to guns becomes a privaledge, not a Right & can readily be taken away with a Whim. People in this Nation better Wake up or it'll be too late.

King, it sounds like you are answering Doug's post here, but I cannot believe you actually read what he said. Either that, or you are deliberatly trying to change the meaning and content of his very clear words.

Unless I'm dellusional, it looked to me as if Doug was saying that Obama was re-elected due to massive voter fraud. I would have to agree, because it's physically impossible to have voter turnouts in some precints of 150% of registered voters. It is statistically nearly impossible to have very large precints where even one voter was either illiterate, or simply made an error and voted for Romney. It is crazy to think that there was really less Republican voter enthusiasm for Romney in 2012 than for McCain in 2008, and that several million less turned out to vote in 2012. It is crazy to think that we didn't have millions more simply voting for anyone but Obama this time versus in 2008 when he was more of an unknown quantity.

But you conveniently and deliberatly ignore this just as you pretend to ignore the fact that there are "grabbers" right here on this forum, and you also ignore the fact that these "grabbers", to a man, supported and continue to support Obama. Not one who claimed he supported gun rights has disavowed him or criticized him for revealing his true anti-gun colors.

When we sometimes categorize these "grabbers" as "grabbers", we are not putting anyone through "Wasserman tests" and alienating potential allies. We are simply calling a spade a shovel... something you refuse to do with any flaming liberal notions exhibited here ever. You say you are not dreaming. I believe you. I believe you because you do it all the time and it's become very obvious that doing so is your concious intent. Doug says it's wearing rose colored glasses. Doug is being too kind. I think it's not nearly so innocent.

P.S. You could have referenced me by name as the guy who called John Boehner a RINO. I don't run from my words or pretend I didn't say them. I have no hidden agenda. Boehner kept this country on the path to certain insolvency and eventual bankruptcy with costs that will be borne by our kids and grandkids. Acquiescing and working with self destructive forces is not my idea of intelligent or admirable.

...as what is happening and will happen. Here.

Citizens, The Campaign and Tactics, please.

Call every one of YOUR Political Representatives, make your voice heard.....as 2holer said, be polite, but be firm.....Democrat or Republican, call them and keep calling them.......

Donate what you can afford to the NRA and other Pro-Gun Groups who are intense and active.....

If it ends up as a "March on Washington" to be heard, sponsered by the NRA, "be there"...no excuses....take vacation, whatever.............

Wow King, that reads like a symphony, but what does that have to do with the price of tea in china. I don't think GOP representatives have been slicing and dicing anyone up. They can pass out bandaids if you want them to, but maybe the republicans should just work on getting their constituents to the polls. Big as you want your tent to be, the GOP couldn't lie about enough welfare to trick new followers.

The biden gift I'm worried about most is the mandatory registration for all firearms transfers. Wonder if they give pro gunners a superficial win on the black gun ban, but make criminals out of anyone who doesn't do the paperwork.

It has plenty to do with turning back the grabbers. To denigrate members who work diligently to thwart the grabbers, on the basis of their political inclinations, is self-defeating. There's enough cocksureness in foul-stocked minds here to close off the cooperative spirit we need to bring others to our side. The grabbers in Canada are emboldened by current circumstances to be seeking advantage. We'd lose our reasoned high ground if we engaged publicly in partisan bickering as it's done on this board. Underestimating adversaries, believing god favours true believers, is the surest way I know to lose.

I'm glad I never denigrate the members who really do work diligently to thwart the grabbers... only the ones who subtly support them.

keith, ever been in action? Ever participated in winning at gun control. It's a great feeling. Ever generate policy advice for a party trying to reverse a registry? At the cabinet level in your nation's capital and provincial legislature? Ever speak truth to power---and win? I don't think so. As veterans here have advised: stick to tactics of how to win, give your all. Anything else is a waste of time.