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I found an early Model 12 in 20 gauge in a small, backwoods gunshop that I later dated to 1914.


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I think this gun now measures 14-inches with the pad, so it may not have been cut. Any suggestions as to what it had originally? Like maybe that black Winchester plate my 1919 has?


If it's a 1914 gun, it's probably a Model of 1912. I have a 1914 Mod 1912 20ga/25"/Full/Solid Rib and it came with a black plastic Winchester butt plate. That stock is packed away now because I refitted the gun with later wood to make it more shootable (longer LOP), but I think you can find pics of the correct plate on the Galazan site in their repro butt plate section.