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Don't know much about BP shotguns,but when I was shooting Pyrodex in a 54 cal rifle,I found that it worked much better when compressed as tight as I could get it.Maybe compressing it will help in shotshells. Mike
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When I shoot pyrodex in my .50 cal. Thompson Renegade I use musket caps. Regular caps arent' hot enough.
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JRB, I didn't use musket caps,but did use the "hot shot"nipple.Your point is well taken,maybe switching caps or nipples would help. Mike
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It worked wonders in my gun. Thompson made a special nipple for those musket caps and it takes a different nipple wrench. With regular #11 caps about half would not fire the pyrodex and I stood there with my gun shouldered waiting and wondering if it was going to go off or not.
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I'm wondering if you were using the best size of fiber wad. It is often recommended to go down to an 11 gauge wad in a 12 gauge or 9 in a 10 gauge to get the best/tightest seal for the gasses to push. An undersized wad can let gasses escape and reduce pressure.
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I think I missed an important point in that you are shooting a central-fire. I shot #4s today & lost 1. Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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Agree with Stallones, FF BP would work better than Pyrodex. I use Hodgdon 777 in my ML rifle and it works better than any other BP substitute I have found Has anyone tried 777 in a ML or a BP substitute load in a shotshell?. The velocity in my Kahnke 50 cal muzzle loader as well as the accuracy is outstanding.
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Pyrodex is a miserable way to shoot BP. Poor ignition, and low velocity adds up to poor performance. SOme of us that shoot a lot of BP gave it up long ago. GO to 2F and be happier. Aaaaaaa....men ! SRH
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Which kind of 6 shot -lead, steel, TM bismuth? If you are using steel at 1100fps at muzzle you now know just how lousy steel is as a projectile.
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We have been told the load consisted of 90 grains (3Ľ+ Drams) of 2Fg Black with 1 1/8oz of #6 shot. What we have not been told is "What Type" of shot. Even @ 1100 fps MV #6 lead or its equivelent should kill a duck cleanly to at least 40 yds. If the shot is the much less dense steel then #6 is about the equivelent of #8 lead, or less. I am thinking the kind of shot is the answer here.
While I too prefer real black to Pyrodex it should ignite quite well with a regular shotshell primer. At one point when I was having a hard time finding the real stuff but could get the Pyrodex at Wal-Mart I tried some of it. It did fine in my .45 cal round ball long rifle using ordinary percussion caps. I know a lot of deer hunters around these parts use it in their In-lines with total success & lite it with 209 primers.
I caught some 777 on a good sale & bought a couple pounds to try in a breech loading shotgun but haven't done so yet.
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