My buddy Loaded some pyrodex with 6 shot no cup. we could knock them down but you need a half greyhound half lab to retrieve the duck.... and I have a 9 year old golden that still has some go in her.They must have shot 4 shot in the black powder days. Either that or I need a 10 guage which might be an option. We knocked down four that just took off when they hit the water luckily some were near the dog at the time.
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