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I suppose it would not hurt to disclose the brand and model of the over/ under. It is a Beretta Silver Pigeon II Sporting.
I think we can eliminate a "cook off". The AD round had a definite firing pin strike. Besides the 19 rounds fired before this was done at 30-60 second intervals between each shot. I don't think the barrels ever got hot enough that you could not touch them. They may have been warm but not blistering hot.
"Breaking the shotgun fully open" may have some merit. Since I was firing the top barrel only I would break the gun open enough to only eject the top round and I would catch the fired round to dispose of the hull in a waste basket at each station. So there is a good possibility that the shotgun was not fully opened each time it was fired.
The history of the shotgun is that it is 7-8 years old. I have fired no more than 3000 rounds through it. The shotgun has never been fully disassembled for a cleaning.
What gunsmith would you recommend for the examination/work on this shotgun since you now know that it is a Beretta?
Thanks for all the insight into this problem.
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Some varieties of single trigger will double when the barrel selector is in between settings. My experience has been when the shooter fiddles with the selector between shots, and inadvertently leaves it in the middle when the gun was re-cocked.
So, My guess is a combination of dirt, parts clearances, cocking technique, and selector fiddling. Hence the difficulty of reproducing the hang fire.
Strip and clean, de-burr and polish, and go shooting.
Out there doing it best I can.
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There's a lot of smiths qualified to work on it. Knowing where you live could get you a recommendation on a smith within driving distance.
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I suppose it would not hurt to disclose the brand and model of the over/ under. It is a Beretta Silver Pigeon II Sporting.
I think we can eliminate a "cook off". The AD round had a definite firing pin strike. Besides the 19 rounds fired before this was done at 30-60 second intervals between each shot. I don't think the barrels ever got hot enough that you could not touch them. They may have been warm but not blistering hot.
"Breaking the shotgun fully open" may have some merit. Since I was firing the top barrel only I would break the gun open enough to only eject the top round and I would catch the fired round to dispose of the hull in a waste basket at each station. So there is a good possibility that the shotgun was not fully opened each time it was fired.
The history of the shotgun is that it is 7-8 years old. I have fired no more than 3000 rounds through it. The shotgun has never been fully disassembled for a cleaning.
What gunsmith would you recommend for the examination/work on this shotgun since you now know that it is a Beretta?
Thanks for all the insight into this problem. Rich Cole is the go to guy for Beretta O/U smithing: www.colegun.com
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Rich Cole is the go to guy for Beretta O/U smithing +1. He also has a very good relationship with Beretta if followup with them is warranted.
Such a long, long time to be gone, and a short time to be there.
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While AD is uncommon, Beretta is known for shipping guns with inletting residue (wood chips) present.
Before anyone spouts off, I have personally seen THREE Berettas that wouldn't work because of garbage floating around in the action. One was mine.
The old air hose treatment might solve this problem.
"The price of good shotgunnery is constant practice" - Fred Kimble
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While AD is uncommon, Beretta is known for shipping guns with inletting residue (wood chips) present.
Before anyone spouts off, I have personally seen THREE Berettas that wouldn't work because of garbage floating around in the action. One was mine.
The old air hose treatment might solve this problem. That thought had crossed my mind as well. Somewhere, possibly my own 682, I saw wood debris in the area of the action.
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ALL new guns should be inspected and cleaned before use and I expect most of the members here know this. Most of you wouldn't believe the condition some of these guns are shipped in from heavy grease residue in the barrels to metal and wood filings in the action. I used to regularly see people attempt to use brand new out of the box guns when I was a range safety officer. It's a tribute to the strength of modern weaponery that more aren't blown up by ignorant owners.
Jim
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The best of the bunch as far as delivery condition goes is Benelli.
Those things come off the boat ready to run.
The others makers could well learn from them.
"The price of good shotgunnery is constant practice" - Fred Kimble
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ALL new guns should be inspected and cleaned before use and I expect most of the members here know this. ... I doubt many if any would take a new O/U apart and inspect the internal workings of the gun, clean and reassemble. Might be a few here, but not many. Most here would not remove the stock.
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