When waterfowl hunting I use TM from Kent 2 3/4" 1 1/4 oz, number 3 for my 12's and number 5 for my 16's.

If the birds don't fall, it's not the load's fault.

I also have Bismuth for 16 in 1 1/8 oz and for 12 in 1 3/8. I like the TM better.

I have also rationalized the cost by comparing what I spend on non toxic for waterfowl hunting with all my other gun and hunting related expenses. A drop in the bucket.

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