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Originally Posted By: Run With The Fox
[quote=Chuck H]Upland in my mind...














The individual states commonly list "upland" game as most of these species and sometimes more: quail, dove, chukar (partridge), pheasant, grouse, pigeon (bandtailed), snipe, grouse, etc..

Lovely fotos indeed, the one with the white Pointer in the distance, and the two Labs closer to the hunters-?? How do you work a pointing dog with a Flushing dog afield without conflicts--ie: Your well trained Elhew bloodlined Pointer jacks up tighter than a nun's pursestrings, you heart beats a mile a minute as you walk in on the point- off to the side so the dog can see you, gun raised, eyes out to where the nose tells you from experience the bird(s) will flush, and then- Blam-o-- here come Butch and Sundance bustin' in, the bird(s) scatter like gangbusters, and the Pointer is throughly confused--


Hi, RWTF, the other "Lab" in Chucks 3rd picture is my German Shorthair. His pointer, my GSP and his Lab worked very well together. His Lab Jasmine is a very well heeled and trained dog as is Sky (his pointer). I've hunted a lot with my GSP and Labs together, never had any problem with the mix. In fact, there have been more than a couple times that I'm glad a Lab was with us. A pointing brred going on stanch point with a bird in the thick stuff and won't move an inch..send in the Lab! Boom! It works well if all the dogs are well managed, handled and trained. I've hunted with some crappy pointers that would break birds when another was on point, didn't honor at all.

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Nitro Express I cannot agree with your sentiments about best guns or high end up being safe queens. I hunt my SLE best gun whose engraving and wood are to truly fantastic. Even in bad weather I have hunted it as my 1st string gun. I only shift to my second string gun (a Greener FH50) when I am sore and looking for lightweight option 5 3/4lb vs 6 1/4 lb. I even use my best gun in the duck blind. I won't own a gun I will not hunt.

yes it gets scratched pushing heavy cover, but it is honest wear

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[quote=Dave in Maine]When dealing with land-use planning and particularly impacts on watersheds and wetlands, the term "upland" is used in contrast to the term "wetland". A wetland is defined by being inundated for a certain number of days in a year (the exact number I forget now) or by being a certain distance from a body of flowing or standing water.

So, an upland can be properly thought of as being somewhat higher and drier than the wetland. And the game which lives and is hunted in the one ordinarily does not do so in the other. To be sure, we've all kicked pheasants and grouse out of soggy bottoms if not hummocks projecting above inundations, and seen geese in cornfields. But, the normal habitat defines the quarry.

IMHO, anyway.

I hadn't thought of that explanation even though I work in that industry. The only thing lacking in the explanation is that I might add wetland and upland are also defined by the species of flora present in each zone.


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Outing November 1898
http://www.la84foundation.org/SportsLibrary/Outing/Volume_33/outXXXIII02/outXXXIII02t.pdf
For the benefit of some half-dozen inquirers, let me say that for all-round upland and cover shooting I prefer a cylinder-bored twelve gauge of not more than seven pounds weight, and by a maker of established reputation, be he American, British, or other over-sea exponent.
The better the quality of the gun the lighter may safely be built, and there is no sense in lugging about a pound, or less, of useless weight. A twelve-gauge, properly charged with smokeless powder and the correct size of shot for the game in view, will, if held aright, kill that game at any reasonable range.

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Earliest U.S. reference to "upland shooting" that I've found

Complete Manual for Young Sportsmen: with directions for handling the gun, the rifle, and the rod; the art of shooting on the wing; the breaking, management, and hunting of the dog; the varieties and habits of game; river, lake, and sea fishing, etc.
Frank Forester (Henry William Herbert) 1856
http://books.google.com/books?id=TtZIAAAAIAAJ
http://books.google.com/books?id=TtZIAAAAIAAJ&q=upland#v=snippet&q=upland&f=false

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I have always thought that uplands was a another British expression that we had grabbed. To someone in the more urbane Southern England there are the midlands and the uplands. The uplands being northern England and Scotland, which also is more mountainous.

More walking, more rugged terrain, therefore a lighter firearm.

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Originally Posted By: King Brown
Larry, those French weren't paddling around over here. They owned the continent from the Arctic Ocean to the Gulf of Mexico. In Canada, we're glad they're still here. Montreal is the second-largest French-language TV production centre in the world. Quebec's cultural contribution is particularly significant. Its hunting and fishing speaks for itself. Regards, King


I was using "paddling around" literally, King. Easiest way to navigate what was then wilderness was by boat. And you're leaving out the East Coast of what is now the USA in your description of how much of the continent they owned. Never that part. But I'm glad they were here too. I was simply pointing out some linguistic oddities they left behind.

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Well the French weren't just in the Northeast. Louisiana, New Orleans, Baton Rouge and many more French place-names are in the South. I think the Louisiana purchase has already been mentioned.



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That's highlands, not uplands.
I have never heard the term "uplands" until I started to read American hunting magazines.
"Uplands hunting" is not a British term, Lagopus, Salopian, am I correct?

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