rocky, I tend to agree with you that the "upland" refers to "higher" ground than that where waterfowl are found. And yes, it's our equivalent to "rough" shooting in Britain as opposed to driven shoots.

But when I see those wonderful open expanses out West and the wide spaces between trees in the Georgia pine woods I get jealous. Just hunted grouse in Maine and the cover was too thick for me this year - age getting to me. I think it's gonna be Georgia hereafter!

Don't sweat the crazies. They will always be amongst us. I'm enjoying my doubles while I still can and that's good enough for me.

All the best