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I acquired this today. Griffin and Howe? You Decide?






















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Can't imagine G&H ever turning out a stock that looked like that, but I could be wrong.

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I kinda don't think so.

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It is a SRS listed 1922M1 that was sold in 1930. It is not an M2 Rifle receiver nor does it have an M2 bolt. I own a Griffin & Howe 1922M1 and have handled many other G & H rifles. I see nothing about this one that suggests G & H. It is good workmanship even though the stock style does not appeal to me.

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Excuse my faux pas. I have never messed about with the Springfield Armory .22's. It was told it was an M2 at auction. I have however lusted for a Springfield .22 Hornet Conversion, forever. It mechanically matches the one pictured in Brophy, exactly. The high ugly target/varmint comb has actually been spliced onto a stock of more classic design, at a later time. The raceway and follower damascening is of the earlier crossed lines G&H style. The bolt can't be removed from the action without removing the barreled action from the stock. The high comb has a cocking piece trough cut in it's front, so the bolt will not strike the stock when fully rearward. The good news is the rifle is in excellent condition. The rust bluing once cleaned up with Renaisance wax is 90+%, no scratches or rust, just slight wear. The bore once cleaned is bright and shiney as a new dime, no appreciable wear. What looked like burred screws, was in fact, just gunk...no burrs. The stock finish and checkering is 80+%. The TRIGGER IS EXQUISITE, it breaks at 2.25lb with the slighest amount of 1st stage take up and zero creep. The only thing needed is a 3/4 inch scope, a Model 48 long slide base with screws and a buttplate. [Rocky Mt. Bill is helping] It is interesting, the old recoil pad was a Hawkins with leather covering. I was told this rifle belonged to Leland Taylor U.S.M.C. a Camp Perry shooter in the 30's and 40's and who lived in my area, BEFORE HIS DEATH. Whether it is a Griffin or not, I couldn't pass it up for WHAT I PAID [just over $900].


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Here is my Griffin & Howe Springfield .22 Hornet. You can decide for yourself the resemblance:





As usual, the original serial number on the action ring was obliterated and a new serial number engraved on the barrel. The altered bolt handle and G&H mount for a 1" tube low mounted scope appear to have been added at a later date.

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Maybe I did not make myself clear. I never meant to imply that the RIFLE'S ACTION/metalwork etc. was that of GRIFFIN AND HOWE. [no barrel #,address etc.] It is clearly that of the SPRINGFIELD ARMORY, I simply thought the original/pre-splice stock may have been GRIFFIN and HOWE's and while there, they polished the follower and raceways. Agreed there is a lot of difference between mine and XAUSA's TO BE SURE AND I WOULD WAGER, A LOT OF DIFFERENCE IN THEIR COST.

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I think you got a nice rifle. The workmanship appeals to me. The pictures didn't show enough detail to see the indications that was a 1922 stock to which the cheek piece was added. I have seen a scope mount like that somewhere before but don't recall where. I hope it was attached using the scope block holes that were in the rifle when it came new from Springfield Armory. If that scope mount could be removed and "O" and "E" Lyman scope blocks installed holding a long target scope you would have a classy rig.

The Lyman 48 that came on the 1922M1 had the elevation scale numbered to 125. Back in the days when your rifle was produced the slide with elevation scale numbered to 150 was referred to as the "long slide". See Brophy's book, pages 474 and 475.

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Originally Posted By: Herschel
The Lyman 48 that came on the 1922M1 had the elevation scale numbered to 125. Back in the days when your rifle was produced the slide with elevation scale numbered to 150 was referred to as the "long slide". See Brophy's book, pages 474 and 475.
Also the correct sight for the 1922s is the 48C, essentially identical to the 48S except for the (all-important to some) different mark.
Regards, Joe


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