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I just bought this today and have been wanting a Pre war Model 70 in nice shape, especially in .270 NOT 30-06, for quite some time. This one came with G&H SIDE MOUNT AND LYMAN ALASKAN SCOPE. I was really impressed with the refurb job it looked like it had been done in a way that it doesn't jump out as a recent refinish [if in fact it is!]I can't be sure. The best part, I don't believe with G&H mounts selling for $325 and Alaskans going for $375 I overpaid at $1275. It will be a hunting piece and I was quite happy, in that it was the best buy I'VE SEEN IN YEARS! WHAT SAY YOU? Serial Number 30,3xx = APPROX. JAN.1940 JERRY

P.S. Could the work be Monte Mandarino's?

Nice rifle, but it sems peculiar that it is fitted with a composition buttplate, when all pre-War Model 70's (and most pre-64's) were fitted with steel buttplates. What is the length of pull?

I ask him and he said he thought it was standard L.O.P. but was not with the gun when it went off auction.I'll report later. Jerry

I agree, the buttplate should be steel on a 1940 gun. Even the pre-64's that had plastic plates had a different style than the one shown. Also the finish looks too smooth,if original,it should have sunk into the pores a little bit.
None the less, a really nice looking gun.

Jerry, check out the .270 Model 70 that I owned until recently. David Condon's site, category "Winchesters". I guess I just can't keep them all.

Bill: L.O.P. 13.5 ins.
Again if I haven't conveyed it enough, I want you to know how much I appreciate(d) the help you gave me with my 1933 G&H 03 Sporter! I finally got it sorted out and it looks like the day it left their shop, at least as far as the Zeiss Zielklein scope and early G&H mount goes! As regards this rifle, I was aware the buttplate was not correct, the G&H mount was not mounted by them [screws show] and the stock finish texture and certainly COLOR is not right, but to tell you the truth I always thought the factory guns, were rather plain [Supergrade being the exception]. I didn't want a mint original example, I couldn't use without worrying about value, and I already had a Model 70 Sporter built by G&H. What I wanted was a Pre-war example in pristine, not original condition for hunting. Given the costs nowadays, I could not begin to duplicate this rifle for anywhere near, what I paid for it. You would also be surprised at how few Pre War guns I have located were 270 WCF and that, was non-negotiable. All in all if you look at the cost of the scope and mount, I paid $550 for the rifle. Now if it shoots half as good as it looks, I'll be in HIGH COTTON! Warmest Regards Jerry

Bill: If yours is the 1954 mfg. with White line recoil pad for $1350, THE PHOTOS ARE DOWN but the listing is still there. It is not marked sold. I'll keep checking ...Thanks for the Heads Up! Warmest Regards Jerry

I should have stated this more clearly, but since the action is clearly pre-War, the tang will be of the clover-leaf variety. A stock as late as yours evidently is would be inletted for the post-War tang. Is this the case?

My comment was not meant as criticism. On the contrary, I think you made a fine buy. A lot of buyers seem to think that a G&H mount diminishes the value of a Model 70, but I am not among them, as a glance at my gun case would confirm.

I probably have a dozen rifles so equipped, the majority of the mounts installed by G&H, including a Super Grade Model 70 in .243 Winchester, a G&H Springfield in .30-'06, a Super Grade Model 70 in .270 Winchester, a G&H Model 70 in .30-'06, an Oberndorf Mauser sporter in .30-'06, a 7mm Remington Magnum Springfield, a Remington Model 14 in .35 Remington, a Model 70 Featherweight in .358 Winchester, a G&H Model 70 in .350 G&H Magnum, a .375 Chatfield Taylor Springfield, a .458 Winchester Magnum Springfield, and a .450 Watts Model 70.

Jerry, my old Super Grade is still on Condon's site, farther down on the list than the standard grade. Alaskan in Griffin and Howe side mounts, 1945 gun according to him. It's worth a look except for the price. Bill Murphy

Bill: No criticism taken. I have no reason to believe it is not the original stock. If you magnify the photo [just click on the PHOTO and then click on SWITCH SIZE hot button THEN WORD...ORIGINAL] of the buttstock and look closely at the space between the wood and the buttplate, you will see a slight irregular line. I believe this is where the stock was cut off slightly to do away with the metal buttplate set back and widow's peak, so a buttplate could be used. Ergo the 13.5 L.O.P. JMOFWIW Jerry