Originally Posted By: jerry66stl
To what extent are so-called heavy loads likely to damage an older American classic SxS ?

I regularly shoot 1-1/8 ounce 12 gauge loads in my older American SxS's, for both pheasant and quail. Others that I hunt with often use 1-1/4 ounce and some Golden Pheasant 1-3/8 ounce loads.

Setting aside the question of whether the additional weight of shot is necessary; are these heavy loads damaging to the shotguns? Especially to L.C. Smiths and Lefevers with their sidelock/sideplate inletting. Are these heavy loads more likely to cause cracks in the buttstocks or wrists?

I'm supposing that since the pressure is within SAAMI limits, metal damage is probably not a significant issue?

Opinions ???
Jerry


Jerry:

1. IMO, what you mention are heavy loads, "not so called"...and yes, very likely to damage older side by sides with 85 + year old wood.

2. I don't know what kind of quail you are shooting down there, but I have never used anything over 7/8 ounce of lead for quail....any more is a waste IMO....

3. The additional weight of shot (ejecta) is "what" creates most of the recoil and thus damage to 85+ year old wood especially in side lock guns which have weaker stock heads because of all the inletting.

4. Old 85+ year old guns have NO IDEA what SAAMI is, since it was not around when they were made. I would suggest RST or Poly Wad Vintagers or similar loadings for "off the shelf ammo" based on what bird you are after.

Use your own disgression, but common sense dictates much lighter loads for the old ladies, if you want long term problem free use of those guns.

Just my opinion....


Doug