Also term extensions, or Verlängerung der Schutzfrist, for D.R.G.M.s/Gebrauchsmuster Nr.241475, 242003, 243380, 252826 were given in January 1908 after a payment of 60 marks was received. So D.R.G.M. 242486 falls in that and with the 3 year protection ending in 1908 all would have been issued circa 1905. I've read that T&S 33xxx was made in 1910, but I don't know if that is sufficient ground truth or not. Adolph Thieme was listed as a gunmaker in the mid 1800s and a Thieme's widow was listed as a businesswoman. There may have been a couple of generations of Adolph Thieme being in the gun trade. Post WWI Adolf Thieme changed his address to somewhere in Spain. I've read that Louis Schlegelmilch was closely involved in Thieme & Schlegelmilch(1850/1852) as well as spending a great deal of time at the Spandau Arsenal. So he was to & fro a bit. A lot of ifs and pure conjecture, but Louis Schlegelmilch was involved and if the subject sporting weapon was sourced from Suhl and possibly completed in Berlin, it would have been closer to have the final pass proofs at the Frankfurt an der Oder facility. Or maybe Louis delivered the sporting weapon to a client in the Berlin area and the client wanted the voluntary semi-smokeless proof so Louis Schlegelmilch took it to the Franfurt proofhouse and that would account for the "Crown" over Gothic F.

I've read German articles that T&S was founded in 1852 but adverts from the late 1800 give 1850. Not much of a difference but it makes you wonder if anyone really knows.


1891 Advert - Gegründet 1850


1891 Advert - Gegründet 1850


Late 1892 Advert


1894 Advert

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