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Big ole rabbit. Not a cottontail, but a separate species. Sometimes its called a swamp rabbit. They hang around the water and will lead a dog on a real swim sometimes. It's about 1 and a half times the size of a cottontail, runs differently from a cottontail, and has a little solid brown tail rather than a white tail. There's also another rabbit around here called a marsh rabbit that lives in the spartina marshes on the coast. You probably have those on the Texas coast too...Geo

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Not George, but a canecutter is a southern name for the "Swamp Rabbit", close relative I believe for the snowshoe hare, much larger than cotton tails. So called because of their likeing of of river bottoms covered up with river cane, a bamboo relative I think.
Bouvier; You will not find a D Lefever in .410 either, the Ithaca, Nitro Special was made in .410, but not the "Real" Lefevers, they only built shotguns.
Not all of us have an urge for one.


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There are quite a few on Gunbroker. Probably some on Gunsamerica, if you can find them through the difficult mess they've made out of one of the formerly best sites. I've sent Gunsamerica some e-mails, telling them how much I dislike the new program. They responded like they were actually interested in my comments. Maybe if enough of us send them e-mails they will bring back the old, easy program. That's assuming others don't like it the new way, too.


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Thank y'all for the canecutter lesson, my Father is from West Tennesee, so I know about a Swamp Rabbit. We may have some over in East Texas - but not around here.

As an aside, my Dad moved to Texas when he was about 16 years old, and brought his rabbit dog, a beagle. He took his pooch rabbit hunting and jumped up a Jack Rabbit, he said his dog just would look at the Jack and then turn and look at him, like what have you got me into.


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Well, Bouvier,
I'm never really in the market for a 410, but I always keep an eye out for a nice one. I have a couple Lefever Nitro Specials in 410, a Crescent, and a nice plain barreled M42. After this season's success with one of the pretty little Nitro 410's, I may be looking for a Arrietta or similar next season.

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I don't want a 410. I don't want a 28 gauge, either. Remington 17s are only 20 gauge guns.

When I was just a kid with a single shot 12, a neighbor of my folks who claimed a .410 was all one needed for grouse (I missed plenty with my little single 12) used to come home with questionable limits of grouse-say 50-75 for the weekend. This was before the TIP (turn in poachers) program. I found out from one of his kids that they hunted pretty far north on a big spread of private ground, and 'ol Pop only shot grouse out of the trees with, you guessed it, his 410.
The guy was and is a backyard breeder of Springers, I hope they got more work then picking up tree potted grouse, but, can't comment on that.
Never did like the guy, even before I found that out. I never warmed up to a 410, either. Plus, the price of ammunition sticks in my craw.
You guys can have mine.
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Originally Posted By: Geo. Newbern
When I was 12 one of my Grandfathers gave me two trained rabbit beagles and a Marlin model 410 lever action .410 shotgun. I killed many a cottontail and canecutter with it and still use it every year for squirrels or something. Everyone needs a .410.
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I know I'm loosing it now. I did a web search for Swamp Rabbit... Turns out they are potentially lethal!
http://www.newsoftheodd.com/article1021.html
George, with rabbits like that, you may need more than a .410

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OK, OK ..... I should have checked the Rem site BEFORE I sent the check ..... The guy who "found" it for me found me a very nice Nitro 16 ..... at least I got the check back. I'll forgive him if he can find me a Nitro 410.

I check most of the usual places, though I've just about given up on GA. In addition to being a nice light bunny gun I want this gun to be something I can lend visitors for a walk in the woods ..... that lets them shoot without pain or the bigger bang of a 20 or 12. ..... and also because I think it will make me work a little harder to make good shots.

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Interesting there about that King of Jerusalem, Fulks, being my last name. Has always been debated whether my ancestors were German or French, but no mention of being Jewish. Sure do love Pork, Crawdads, & a lot of other "Unclean Creeping Things".


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I love the 410. I own several that I can recommend. Remington 1100 no choke tubes, H&R topper single shot, Remington 870 pump, and Beretta 687 EL Gold Pigeon II. I do not own a SxS yet in this guage, waiting for the right English or American gun. I think that this is one of the best guages for game farm birds.

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