I don't want a 410. I don't want a 28 gauge, either. Remington 17s are only 20 gauge guns.
When I was just a kid with a single shot 12, a neighbor of my folks who claimed a .410 was all one needed for grouse (I missed plenty with my little single 12) used to come home with questionable limits of grouse-say 50-75 for the weekend. This was before the TIP (turn in poachers) program. I found out from one of his kids that they hunted pretty far north on a big spread of private ground, and 'ol Pop only shot grouse out of the trees with, you guessed it, his 410.
The guy was and is a backyard breeder of Springers, I hope they got more work then picking up tree potted grouse, but, can't comment on that.
Never did like the guy, even before I found that out. I never warmed up to a 410, either. Plus, the price of ammunition sticks in my craw.
You guys can have mine.
Best,
Ted
