It's my perception from the comments here that a large number of us are looking for a light, handy 410 ....... I've been looking for a long time and a lot of comments have been made here about similar quests. I've even broadened my parameters (G * D help me) to a Rem 17 pump. I almost had the 17 but the guy backed out and sent me back my check. I've been looking at the new ones but they all look clunky. So how many of you am I competing with? BTW my holy grail is a NID or a D. LeFever ......

Al