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The information posted On J.P.Moore & Co; is found in the book, "Canadian Gunsmiths 1608-1900"by the late James S,Gooding. Source; Toronto Directories of the period.


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Thanks Roy for the reference. I think it to be in error if the directory is referring to John Phenix Moore and if his date of death of 1881 is correct. Short lived venture and no one thought 120 later folks would be scrutinizing it.

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From this doc, it appears there was a descendant named John Phenix Moore and do note that Joseph Gales was involved for some reason.




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Originally Posted By: Tamid
Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
All the light I can shed on the gun is...it's not worth spending allot of money on.


And a worthless comment!


To go with a worthless gun

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http://www.archive.org/stream/cihm_08535/cihm_08535_djvu.txt

John Holman, Hamilton Gun Works, 79 James
Street North.

In a wooded country like Ontario,
where game abounds and sportsmen are plentiful, the
trade of the gunsmith is an important and lucrative one. Among
those most prominently connected in this line of business in Hamilton is
the HamiltonGunWorks, of which Mr. John Holman is the proprietor.
This gentleman is a native of London, Eng., and has resided
in this country for 25 years. It was in the city of London, under
one of the best gun makers in the trade, that
he learned all the intricacies of the business, and
perfected himself for his present position. He is
one of the best gun makers in the Dominion,
and manufactures every portion of the gun, from
the forgings to the finished article. The repu-
tation for the superior quality of the arms manufac-
tured by him has spread throughout Ontario and the
North- West, and even to the Maritime Provinces,
and he is constantly in receipt of orders from sports-
men in scattered sections throughout the country,
who have seen and used his guns and appreciated
their merits. He is also an extensive dealer in re-
volvers, fishing tackle, and all kinds of sporting goods.
He gives employment to four competent and skilled
-workmen, who are under his immediate supervision.
Mr. Holman makes a specialty of choke boring, and
guarantees a pattern of 200 pellets of No. 6 English
chilled shot in a 30 inch circle at 40 yards. He is
the only gunsmith in Hamilton running by steam
nower in his workshop. He has also just imported
from England, at a great expense, a complete set of
stock-bending machinery, which is only used in the
largest factories in England, and he has purchased
the entire right to use the same in Canada. Mr.
Holman has been established in business in Hamilton
for eight years, and has built up an enviable trade
throughout Canada. The premises occupied by him
are spacious and commodious, being 16x150 feet in
dimensions and two stories in height, with a factory
of 50x20 feet in the rear, and are eligibly situated in
the heart of the city. A specialty is made of skate
grinding, which is done on the celebrated Halifax
principle ol hollow face, many thousands of pairs
being sharpened each season, the work extending to
all the princijjal centres of population in the Dominion,
Mr. Holman is a thorough man of business, upright
and honorable in all his dealings, and has won the
esteem of the community.

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Capital there Peter, Capital. Verying interesting tid-bit of info and may more answer Tamid's inquiry.

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Forgot to post the remainder which shows Weston S. Gales, son of Joseph Gales, as one of the trustees. And just a reminder that Joseph Gales, bicycle peddler, was the Gales of Schoverling, Daly & Gales.







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Peter,

That helps tremendously. I suppose I can surmise Moore brought guns to Canada and had Holman finish them. But have never come across a firearm made by Holman.


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I think it was one of the many British sourced sporting weapons that Winchester dropped on the market(in what state of completion I cannot say). I'm sure Schoverling, Daly & Gales were closely involved and John Holman may have been a subcontractor to them?

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I am hoping Roy can jump back in with more information. I simply do not have the reference material on Canadian makers. From the sound of that desciption, he was widely known.

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