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This crest is on an unusual gun marked Schwartz Bros. in Luxemburg. Can anyone say what the initials are and what order they should be viewed ? The making of the gun was obviously quite an effort. 
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C V A I'd say viewed in that order,, C is overlapped at multiple points by both the V and A Then as reading left to right,,the V is shown prominent (left side of the letter), then the A (right side of the letter).
The arguement for a monogram of 'cAv' can also be given. But as the 'A' isn't that prominent/bold as a last name initial centered should be IMHO, it's appearence of being a touch larger than the V helps the point. But it's not enough to go that direction I don't think.
JMHO.
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AVC just because of the amount of over lap on each letter.
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I can't help with the initials, but I would very much like to see some pictures of the whole gun.
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Could it be a Y instead of a V?
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Could it be a Y instead of a V? I don't think so. I have numerous books full of monograms and cyphers that show that loop at the bottom of a V when used used with interlocking letters.
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Last edited by Daryl Hallquist; 08/17/12 11:11 AM.
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Here's another crest on another gun, but surely the same maker. Can you help on these letters , that seem a bit harder? Sorry, I don't own this gun, so it's the best picture I can get.  
Last edited by Daryl Hallquist; 08/17/12 12:00 PM.
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For those of you who might be interested in solving the riddle of the second crest just above, there is strong evidence that the gun was made for Dr. J A Vosburgh.
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