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GLS, great job!

Pato would really like something to go with his attire.

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Jim and Tut, great stories.

When I was in my teens and "shotgun-less" I used to borrow a single shot one that
I had to unscrew the barrel of to be able to "eject" the spent shell. It did not make
for quick follow-up shots!

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Love my IZ18 20 gauge. But I could not resist customising it with a made to fit figured stock (OK, I had the blank for years and it was too narrow for anything else).

Seriously, it is one of the most ergonomic actions around. When the knack is acquired it can be shot and reloaded fast.


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Originally Posted By: Shotgunlover


Seriously, it is one of the most ergonomic actions around. When the knack is acquired it can be shot and reloaded fast.


SL, I am sure you would really love a Manufrance Idéal!

JC

P.S. That Baikal looks really nice. Congratulations! jc


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JC,

You are a good shooter psychologist. I ADORE the Ideal. Any grade would do, but my favorite is the Robust Ideal with its self opening system.

Actually I am sort of weak for any true round action, a side pedal Dickson in 16 gauge would not be bad either.

But to retain some perspective, someone, could be on this board, said a good gun is the one that makes you smile when you pick it up and not cry when you drop it. The IZ18 in this respect just edges past the other two. A narrow thing mind you....

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Originally Posted By: Shotgunlover
a good gun is the one that makes you smile when you pick it up and not cry when you drop it.

Good quote and nice wood on Olga. I like the action as well in addition to being able to choose extraction or ejection on my MP18. Gil

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Care for a quiz?

The Izh 18 (Baikal MP 18, Rem spr 1xx) is a development of which American single shot action?

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Humpty, it has been posted before, here and elsewhere, that the IZ18 is based on the Iver Johnson single. I had one of those, it is nothing like the IZ18. It had an ambidextrous opening lever and central hammer. Unless there is another I.Johnson type, then the IZ18 is not related.

There were also posts accusing the IZ18 of slam fires, ie firing when the gun is snapped close. Obviously those posting did not knnow of the IZ18 automatic hammer block.

But to go beyond the details. Consciously and deliberately hunting with a single can be liberating. The absolute focus on the one and only shot changes hunting for the better, in my opinion. Just look at Pato's expression in the pics. He knows!

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Originally Posted By: Shotgunlover
Humpty, it has been posted before, here and elsewhere, that the IZ18 is based on the Iver Johnson single. I had one of those, it is nothing like the IZ18. It had an ambidextrous opening lever and central hammer. Unless there is another I.Johnson type, then the IZ18 is not related.


Guess I'll have to write a separate post on that smile

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But to go beyond the details. Consciously and deliberately hunting with a single can be liberating. The absolute focus on the one and only shot changes hunting for the better, in my opinion. Just look at Pato's expression in the pics. He knows!

I recall reading a Gun Digest article some years back where one of their regular writers, Ken Waters if memory serves me correct, was asked to obtain an example of all the then currently available single shots on the US market & to hunt with tham exclussively for a season & then write up a report. He did so & his conclusion was he was not about to give up his fancy doubles, BUT, in all honesty he had to admit that his overall bag for the season was not reduced, the singles had performed very well indeed.


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