yes, I appreciate the help. I will try to get more pics but the gun is not at my house so it will take a couple days at the least. As to the things you have described, I am at a loss. I don't know what a water table is, I can remove the forearm and take pics. I can measure the barrel. I don't know what you mean by is the front trigger articulated, also I don't know how to determine length of pull from the front trigger. Sorry I don't know much about shotguns. But that said I find this gun very intruiging and the more I learn about it the more I want to learn. Thanks for the help guys.