Haven't tried the 12ga 3/4's yet, but the Claybuster 20ga 3/4's are excellent. For "recreational" skeet, I can't tell the difference--other than in reduced recoil. Really mild through my 5 3/4# 20ga Sauer grouse gun. R barrel on the Sauer is cylinder, and I still get very good, solid breaks. I do load 8 1/2's when I drop down to 3/4, rather than the reclaimed mixture of 7 1/2 and 8 that I often use in 7/8 oz 12ga reloads.