Fyi, Kent also makes their 12ga 2.5" paper hull, fiber wad 1 1/16oz TM #6 and plastic hull/fiber wad #5 load. The #5 load is absolutely incredible for pheasants and decoyed ducks in my 2.5" chambered Lefever 12. I'll be trying the 16ga 1 1/6 #5 load this year as well and I'm curious to see if performance is similar. I'm assuming it will be, but each gun is different.