I assume Bidwell is a Brit who goes about in tweeds. Strange that his language (gun hold) is so similar to that of skeet (hold point). Just too much skeet type thinking there, sxs, to wit, muzzles more or less halfway to a point or area where the INTENTION is to shoot the bird based on WHERE the bird is first clearly seen. That's the language to describe a predictable game like skeet but not some nimrod twirling the gun over his head while stepping in a chuck hole. I thought MM had an essay on MMS in some book. I better go read it!

jack