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I recently purchased the T R Hasdell from Cambo listed on the For Sale section. I am looking forward to receiving the fine old gun on Tuesday. In the meantime I am trying to find out as much history as I can on the gun, and the manufacture Thomas R Hasdell. If anyone on the forum has information they can share, such as articles I can read, engravers that may have done work for Hasdell, and any other information it would be greatly appreciated. So far the search I have done on Google has turned up very little. It is my intension to have the gun restored. I will post pictures when the project is completed. Thanks Phil
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I looked up Both TR Hasdell of London and Thomas R Hasdell of Chicago in Carder's. Which one is it? Steve
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Rockdoc, it could be the same fellow. The Chicago Hasedll was trained early on in Britain and came to the U.S. in 1870 at about the age of 45. Curtis Johnson's second book, Gunmakers of Illinois has some bio on him as well as an 1881 challenge from L C Smith, Maker of the Baker Patent gun, to see whose guns patterned the tightest. Hasdell was supposed to prefer a "long taper choke" boring.
It is never clear with these fellows who operated on imported guns, exactly how much was done overseas and how much was done here. I have seen Hasdell guns both from England and Belgium. Quality varies. The gun we are talking about seems fairly high quality and I would guess most of the work was done in Belgium.
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Thanks for the information Daryl. I do not own Gun Makers of Illinos. Any information you can share from the Bio is greatly appreciated. I did find the article on the LC Smith challange. Thanks Phil
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I personally checked out the Hasdell at a Kalamazoo gun show. And I should have bought it myself, and I am very sorry that I did not. Congratulations to the new owner, you have purchased a very special gun. PM me if you decide to sell.
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I have posted this before..
According to Johnson's "Gunmakers of Illinois" Vol II: Hasdell worked at 150 St John Road, London until he immigrated to Chicago. From 1871-1887 he was located at 20 E Madison. In 1881 he was challenged in the American Field by LC Smith of Baker guns. LC Smith wrote a public letter in which he wagered $50 that his guns had a better choke than Hasdell. Hasell made long taper chokes.
There is at least one example of a WC Scott with Hasdell's name on the barrels. An old ad shows him offering guns for $100-$300 (very expensive). He apparently had a real following in Chicago.
As Daryl stated, it is impossible to determine how much work Hasdell did to a gun.
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Here's one I used to own... Great gun. The nicest TR Hasdell I had seen. Obviously a WC Scott. I believe he imported the guns and finished them here
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Do you have any photos to share? The photos have been taken off.
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Thanks to all who have responded I appreciate every piece of information I can gain on the gun, and the man who built it. Chissel I would like to discuss with you your thought on the gun, and will keep you on mind if I decide to sell. At this time I am looking forward to doing some restoration work on the gun and shooting it a little this fall. I will keep you in mind if I ever decide to part with it. I am in Mexico working today, but will be driving North tomorrow night. The Hasdell should actually be at my house today. I will take some pictures of the gun and post them. I would like to get feedback on this gun and suggestions on doing restoration, including recommendations on whom I can send it to. Thanks Phil
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I just got home and inspected the HASDELL. The gun is better than expected. The engraving is excellent. The wood is as I expected and will need some work. Barrels are very good. I will post pictures as soon as I can. The barrels is marked T R Hasdell Chicago Ill
Last edited by Phillip Carr; 05/16/12 01:11 AM.
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