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I really don't know enough to say but there sure seem to be similarities in the style of those three guns.
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If Lovena Praha was in business for some 55+ years, someone should have some detailed info?????   More roses for you James   Lovely Lovena boxlock Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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An interesting tube stamp in Czech on an offering of Ladislav Svestka of Praha:      Czech - uredne ctyrnasobne zkousena a nastrelena nejsilnejsim nabojem bezdýmného prachu Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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Raimey, my translator is saying something about smokeless but most of it is garbled. Any idea of the complete translation?
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James:
A best guess is that it was tested at the state proofhouse with 4 times the service load. I was hoping Jani or someone else would put us on tract.
If Ladislav Svestka of Praze and the Ladislav Svestka in Otto's New Age Encylopedia are one in the same, Ladislav Svestka was born in Mësicich/Mësice in the Tabora area/region in 1869 and it would appear he was a master by 1894 as his adverts begin to appear by 1896. Seems he either received training in Plzni/Pilsen, a city Southwest of Praze/Praha, or worked a stint there before moving to Praze/Praha. I would bet that he either passed thru Novotny, or some of the other Praze/Praha maker's shops before he hung out his own shingle. Seems he was a merchant and retailed many items including bicycles and other sporting oriented items. Another term associated with him is ruënicemi and I haven't been able to crack the code on the term just yet. He expired in 1939.
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With these 2 sets of stamps, which appear to bound the date range for the Lovena concern pre-WWII, it would seem that Lovena was formed circa 1920/1921 and continued after WWII. It also shows they were rolling out wartime production examples sourcing them from Liege from ML, Cap/Falla.   1921 Weipert sourced  1944 Dictator with import stamp sourced from ML. Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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If Lovena the co-operative was formed in 1920 and the earliest stamps on my barrels are pre 1923, that seems to definitively narrow a production date down to between 1920 and 1923. At least for the basic construction of the gun, not necessarily the final finishing?
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Couldn't find another thread to highjack on Ladislav Svestka so I'll just put these images here. 1st is an advert from 1913 & then the others are from a Ladislav Svestka catalogue being some 70 pages and published quarterly.    Puskar Ladislav Svestka v Praze  Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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