Miller, I realize you mentioned the felt wad use in the fifties Lyman book. I have been loading with Herco since the felt wad days but I wouldn't put 37 grains of Herco under 1 3/8 ounces of lead no matter what kind of wads were used. On another point you mentioned, the reason that Hercules didn't put low velocity Unique 1 1/8 ounce target loads in their book is because they are very temperature sensitive as well as sensitive to minor air space in the powder charge area. The added pressure of the 1 1/4 ounces of shot should have made them reliable. Even similar Green Dot 1 1/8 ounce target loads create the occasional blooper in cold weather. The extra 1/4 ounce of shot should eliminate this problem. On your last paragraph, maybe some day I will break open Nash's last case of Super-X Lubaloy 1 3/8 ounce loads and shoot some patterns. I kind of know what they are going to look like on the pattern board, though. I have loaded similar loads with non plated #4s and shot incredible 60 yard patterns out of an overchoked Fox shotgun, a Sterlingworth, not a Super Fox. I have never shot patterns out of a Super Fox and now I am out of my old #4 lead reloads.