Originally Posted By: Gary D.
I have used an L.C.Smith 3" Ideal Grade Longrange Gun exclusively for my waterfowling for the last 5 seasons now. It has the 'special boring', and retains its tight original chokes. The gun and 'light' loads kills decoyed geese and ducks with alacrity. IMO there just isn't a need for truly heavy loads unless one is pass shooting, and even then...

Mind you, its effectiveness with such light loads I feel is due to the tight chokes. Enough pellets are brought to bear on the target to effect clean kills, albeit forcing me to bear down a bit more than when shooting an open choked gun- which is not a bad thing IMO.


+3 after Stan, RWTF.....so great to see people appreciate the 'original' tight choked guns and know how load and shoot them and make them sing !.....Good job Gary D....

Both sides very tight factory fulls on this one....L.C. 12 Ideal 30".....


Doug