I went out to shoot a round of trap at lunch time with a couple of team members today. One of our team members is a female novice, who doesn't have a shotgun, so she's been renting one from the club each time she shoots

After shooting, she mentioned that her dad had sent her one to try out. I asked her what he had sent her. Her reply was "one of those ones where the barrels are like this" and with her fingers made two circles side by side.

At that point I asked if I could see it. "It's just an old shotgun." she replied. She pulled a nice softside leather case from the vehicle, which I complimented her on. Again, her reply was "My dad said don't lose the case it's more valuable than the shotgun."

I didn't have much time before getting back to work to look it over well, but she pulled out a Von Lengerke & Detmold 12 ga. 5 pin sidelock with Krupp steel, dolls head. I'd say overall, from my brief look, about 95-96%. It had "Knock About" stamped on it.

That was about all the information I gleened from the cursory look I had. Was this a Francotte gun?

I did mention that the gun was more valuable than the case. She indicated that she was going play around with it, to see if she could get comfortable shooting it.


Cameron Hughes