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Just a question - I've never had a shotgun tubed nor have I even (to my knowledge) seen one.

Is the tube job permanent? Are the tubes soldered or somehow made non-removable?

Thanks

No, the tubes lightly "press" in and out. Some gun - tubes require a bit of fitting, most will work with little effort. The handling dynamics is the issue with 10-16 oz tubes in a 6# - 7# gun. Most of the weight is forward, so the balance moves forward, along with the weight increase and the swing efforts increase. The size of this issue depends on the sensivity of the individual shooter to the changes in handling dynamics.

Is there no longer any source for barrel lining? That seemed to solve this problem.

DDA

That sums it up quite nicely.

Although, to be fair, there are damascus barrels that are plenty strong to take any shell you an shove in it. I have a buddy that shoots a damascus Gibbs and he's shot from Argentina to Zimbabwe with anything he can find to stuff in the chamber.

Most of my guns fall into that category too, from a barrel thickness perspective, but I always figure, why not use nice light shells. I can shoot a flat of shells and worry a lot more about burning my fingers on the barrel than what my shoulder feels like.

Chamber sleeving is chamber sleeving and insert tubes are insert tubes. Briley does both. Chamber sleeving is permanent. In today's world, chamber sleeving is too extreme because removeable chamber inserts with extractors are available. It is thought that a chamber insert reduces pressure enough in front of the chamber to make the safety factor quite high.

I have a Baker 12 gauge that I have fitted with Briley 30" 28 gauge tubes. I did this so the gun could be safely shot and not put up as a wall hanger.
Screw in Briley chokes also.

Mike

A 12 to a 28! Well, Mike, that's about as sissified a thing as I've ever heard. Real men shoot real damascus, drink whiskey 'n daince all night (that's Texas talk) . Why didn't you jest plug her up a tiny bit more 'n make a water pistol outta it. Sissy...sissy...... Guess I now know why you always stand way behind me when I'm limbering up one of my ole wirebarrels on the skeet field.

if your damascus or twist tubes are unsafe to shoot with rst or similar ammo, then full length briley tubes are a good way to go. the option of being able to change choke tubes is a nice bonus. plus some shooter find the extra weight forward actually improves their shooting score. and, if you are using 20 gauge tubes, then you can use 1 1/8 ounce, 3" shells if need be.

Amarillomike's analogy to swinging something like a warthog on the end of a flyrod or some such thing comes to mind when I think of subgauge full length tubes. I'd either sleeve the gun or sell it to someone willing to shoot an overly heavy gun like that.

Heavy, light, moderate weight, no difference if you can shoot.
The heavy ones work well for targets and waterfowl.
The light ones work well for upland
Tne moderate ones , well they are moderate
The Baker is now useful, whereas before tubes it was not useful.

Joe Wood, as I remember it, you did not miss a clay today on field 6. Wish Amarillo Mike had been there for his monthly lesson.

Mike

Skeettx got it right, Its what you want to use it for. I do not like carrying an 8 lb gun all day rabbit hunting but for doves, and clays it would be perfect. I am cheap, but I like vintage with service. I'd take sleeved long before I'd take thin barrels but I am a hunter.
Monty