King that was old whazzisname, the feller with the 20 in a 12 chamber gauge. The DitzyBikr image probably helped; never saw anyone challenge him on the McGivergauge. When I'd bring it up and attribute it to ol WHN, someone would always take me to task that it didn't work. Just on the QT, it did of course. I'll let this percolate and get back. I do not think that he's deceased but I don't always catch everything. Ed Muderlak was gone for a yr and I never missed him.

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