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keith, your other way is common. Network truth squads are currently part of US debates, comparing what candidates say today with what they're on record as saying previously. Responsible journalism usually reports events followed with background and other viewpoints either in the same story or over time. Space and time rarely allow media to present all sides in their reports.

Mix in the pervasive lying, the passionately held "truths" of insurgents and occupiers, the anti- and pro-gun advocates, the fundamentalist and secular, the poverty and Wall Street activists. It's unreasonable to think there's a formula to remove bias because it's part of being human. I read and listen to biases of others to measure the extent of my own.

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King, while our national news organ, the CBC, has almost completely ignored the attack by Big Brother on the family in Kitchener of the 4 year old who drew the picture of her daddy holding a gun to fight "the bad men and monsters", other news organizations all across Canada and around the world have had a heyday with it.

This story has the twin themes of interference by all knowing social activists in deciding what is "appropriate" child rearing and the evil that are guns. In this case the interfering activists have clearly demonstrated both a lack of common sense and common decency.

Are you suggesting the lack of interest in this story, the story of the abuse of power by elites on a common man and his family, is just an oversight by the CBC? It seems much more likely to me that it is an uncomfortable story for those at the CBC.

When trying to understand motive, the baser is usually correct.

The problem is the "passionately held truths" of the media, in defiance of logic, reason and evidence.


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Originally Posted By: King Brown
Responsible journalism usually reports events followed with background and other viewpoints either in the same story or over time. Space and time rarely allow media to present all sides in their reports.


King, with all due respect, I think five decades is more than ample time for CBS, ABC, NBC, The New York Times, The Washington Post, et al, to present another side of the gun rights story. You are attempting to defend that which is indefensible. I don't deny that our side of the story gets told too, but it's like peeing in the ocean.


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I've been hunting grouse in Canada for 15 years and shooting there for over thirty.
Gun registration has been both time consuming and costly. On more than one occasion, I've been stopped, had my guns and paper work examined, followed by the usual criminal check. I guess they don't like accountants. I don't thinks it's just because we have NY license plates.
The average Canadian is great and resents these guns laws much more than I do. He should. Many more Canadians come to our border shooting clubs than Americans go there. It's easy to figure out why.
I know that the repeal of these laws has been anticipated for many years. What can I expect when crossing at Buffalo or Niagara Falls this year? How close is the repeal to being law?
Is Ontario going to enact there own set of restrictions? I know that has been rumored.

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Originally Posted By: keith
Originally Posted By: King Brown
Responsible journalism usually reports events followed with background and other viewpoints either in the same story or over time. Space and time rarely allow media to present all sides in their reports.


King, with all due respect, I think five decades is more than ample time for CBS, ABC, NBC, The New York Times, The Washington Post, et al, to present another side of the gun rights story. You are attempting to defend that which is indefensible. I don't deny that our side of the story gets told too, but it's like peeing in the ocean.


I am relating the following just to show how biased the 'mainstream" news media is in this Country.
The Arizona Republic,which is the principal newspaper in the Phoenix area, compiled a list ot Notable events in Arizona for 2011. Missing from this list was Operation Fast and Furious the DOJ gunrunning scheme which is turning into the biggest political scandal since Watergate. This is an operation the Leftist/Democrats don't want publicised so the 'mainstream' news media has gone out of it's way to accomodate them.
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And The Arizona Republic is a notorious leftie rag, endorsing Bush twice and McCain/Palin.

Your conspiracy is growing bigger! Better report it to the cops.

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Another one going on my ignore list.

The Arizona Republic endorsing McCain/Palin was a "no brainer" since there wasn't a chance of the Kenyan carrying Arizona.
But I guess you would have to actually have a brain in order to grasp this.
Jim

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I don't know how much support I'll get for this: everything is political whether its engagement in civil administration or making decisions in the management of our families, schools, clubs, parties, churches and mosques. We bring our values to all of them, some more forcefully by plutocrats and aristocrats.

Freedom of expression is protected to a fairly high level in the United States, Canada, Great Britain, Europe and a couple dozen other countries. The younger generation knows all the tools of communication and how to use them, particularly the pervasive social media. Our side has been losing for decades.

Ten years ago here I said that enjoyment of the shooting sports as I know it will be gone within my lifetime or shortly after. Nothing has dissuaded me from that opinion. A whole new generation has grown up disengaged from the land and killing things as it sought shelter and jobs in the cities.

Those of us who fought in Canada to preserve what we considered an integral part of our culture opened a big tent without distinctions between conservatives and liberals and the usual lunatics on the fringe who remain abiding companions. The result was satisfactory. We had media coverage. We appealed to common sense.

Blaming the media for the pickle we're in is, to me, like saying more education is the answer for any problem when the solution is action of a kind that more intelligent audiences have grown to expect. Choosing a fighting man on his politics is a good way to die in a foxhole.

Organizations I belong to, including shooting sports, have access to media. The US has an entire TV network and federal political party generous to our points of view. Staring in our face, however, are demographics that see the world another way from ours. But we'll change a few more regulations here, starting with storage.

By appealing to common sense, not whining, special pleading.

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King, your comment: A whole new generation has grown up disengaged from the land and killing things as it sought shelter and jobs in the cities. nails it. The urbanization of society really has altered the culture. I grew up in New York City and still spend part of the year in Manhattan; the rest in a semi-rural environment. Manhattan's East Side is about as urban as it gets and my friends there are not innately anti-gun or anti-hunting, it's just that those activities are so alien that they cannot comprehend them. Gun-related activities are as strange to them as a steady diet of concerts, theatre, art galleries, openings, museums is to my rural neighbors. My rural neighbors are not oafs and my NY friends are not snobs - they are in two different worlds.

And these worlds are farther apart than ever. When I was young, my father's business friends hunted and fished the Maine Woods and the Adirondacks. That was quite common then - their counterparts today no longer do it.

I find that once their surprise is gotten over (often accompanied by nervous laughter) urbanites are receptive to rational discussion of the subject. It's worth the effort.

Hunting and shooting will survive for a very long time, it'll just keep getting more expensive and more difficult to do.

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"Blaming the media for the pickle we're in is, to me, like saying more education is the answer for any problem when the solution is action of a kind that more intelligent audiences have grown to expect. Choosing a fighting man on his politics is a good way to die in a foxhole."

I will tell you this the "mainstream" news media portraying anything related to the shooting sports in a positive manner is such a rarity that it would be big news here should it ever occur. It is well known that their goal is the same as the lefties who own and control the news media. It is the registration and ultimate confiscation of every firearm in private hands in this Country.

Here's a quote from one of the Left's primary mouthpieces:


Senator Dianne Feinstein: "If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an out-right ban, picking up every one of them... 'Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in,' I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren't here." CBS-TV's "60 Minutes", February 5, 1995


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