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Hello all, I am fairly new to damascus guns. Can anyone tell me what this pattern on a Syracuse lefever would be called? Thanks. Silvers

Hello Silvers,

I would call it veeery nice!

JC(AL)

To me it appears to be "Star" damascus, I am no expert in identification, however.

It is not the "Star" pattern that is usually seen on Lefevers. Maybe someone would post a picture of that impressive pattern. The pictured pattern is very nice, for sure. I don't know what it is called.

There's a nice pic on p. 380 of L.C. Smith "The Legend Lives" showing the LC damascus brls. They referred to that pattern as "Fine Damascus-Figured Pattern Three Rod-67% Steel"
It was used on the Grade 3, Pigeon, and Grade 4 guns.
Sanderson Bros. Steel (used on the early Syracuse and later guns), Crucible Steel Co. (on post-1913 guns), and Halcomb Steel Co. (after 1905) were all in Syracuse.

I cannot be absolutely sure, but I believe the pattern type is classified as two iron crolle, re my conversations with the late Dr. Gaddy. It may be three rod damascus, but I've not seen that pattern used on any of the G grade Lefevers I have handled.
In the Semmer Remington treatise, this pattern was marketed as " oxford 2".
best regards,
JBP

The above makes sense as chain, Bernard, and star are all crolle variants.

jack

According to the Remington salesmans samples, shown in Semmer's book, that pattern was called Oxford 2 S.J. down in Ilion. It was the normal barrel material seen on Model 1900 KD- and KED-Grades and on the Model 1894 A- and AE-Grades.

I agree with J. B. Patton, this is two stripe [or two iron], damascus.Greener also refers to this pattern as "Boston" Damascus.
Two stripe damascus was made both in England and Belgium. The Leige Arms museum has a splendid exhibit demonstrating the production methods used to produce many types of damascus, one of which is refered to as Crole.^
I am of the opinion that the barrel illustrated is of Belgium manufacture because of the excellent figure seen.
Why did Greener refer to this damascus type as; Boston, was it a barrel made for export? Any possibility that this type of Damascus was made in Boston U.S.A,?

This is not star damascus, it is the same damascus as used on the remington 1900 and the 1894 a grade. My Lefever G grade had the same damascus barrels as your's.