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I thought I had a pretty good idea of what jug choking looked like...correct me if I'm wrong.

Its a honed section a few inches behind the muzzle that's generally a few inches long that's a larger diameter than the bore behind it and the muzzle end in front of it ?

If I am close to being correct in my layman's description how do you propose this was done without some type of expandable reamer ?

jOe

I've used an automotive brake cylinder hone to polish chambers and clean up mild pitting in barrels (it smooths and polishes that sort of sugary surface you sometimes see located just after the forcing cone). As long as you weren't looking for a whole lot of choke a brake cylinder hone, with coarser stones on it then what I've been using, would be great for what you just described, and easily accomplished as well simply using a power drill. SDH, I think you're making the process harder then need be.

BTW the chamber I polished was on a new Remington 870 Express. The factory chamber was so rough that shells would occasionally stick in it. After polishing with the hone there were no more problems. Yes I probably should have sent it back to the factory, but then I would have been without use of the gun right at the beggining of hunting season .

Steve

Got a 14 bore and a 16 bore. No 15 bore (yet)

It seems odd to me that the underside of the barrels aren't each stamped with a "15", but I guess there's room for procedural slips now and again, especially back then.

I have to admit I tend to agree with the assessments of SDH on this one.

Maybe you'd like to explain it then.

Don't recall that we were ever given a maerking for the gauge of the gun in question. If the bores still measure what they did when built then one would have been marked 16 & the other 15. Prior to 12887 there was no 16/1. With those bore sizes after 1887 but prior to the marking of actual diameter they would have been marked 16/1 & 15.

SDH
Incidently I have never in my life worked in a proof house & measured a bore with an "Official" plug gauge nor stamped its size on a bbl. I can however still speak with some reasonable amount of intelengence on the subject. While true I have never had a reason to jug choke a bbl, as I stated I wporked for 35+ years in the machinist trade & have certainly performrd far more complicated tasks than putting a little ol jug in a shotgun bbl. I can assure you I could perform that simple task without removing the breech plugs.

I have an equal hatred for folks who think "Their Way" is the "Only Way". I thought everyone knew there were at least 4 ways to do anyrthing.

I talked with an old muzzleloading enthusiast at the gun club today and said he had jug choked several Muzzle loaders with a home made expandable reamer from the muzzle end...even mentioned that another member had an original reamer by V.M. Star.

...and I spoke with Shiva today and he told me you were FOS and that Miller needed to work on his spelling.

I don't know my arse from my breech, but I do know that quite a few guys with flintlock fowlers do get them jug-choked, usually specifically for turkey.

As I intimated, I don't know the procedure but I think Joe is on to it. I'll bet he's known some guys who've had it done.

The muzzleloading site I'm a member of could supply me with a smith or two who perform this service if someone here needs to pursue it.

I'll tell you one thing; the purists are strictly against the practice because, of course, nobody had such a barrel back in the 18th century. But there certainly are some guys today who have no qualm about that.

Its not so much my spelling as manipulating the keyboard. I never took typing in school nor do I make any claim to being a writer. I did spend 4 yrs in an official machinist apprenticeship & the following 31+ yrs plying my trade. I know a good deal about lathes & other metal working including a lot of hand work. More than 20 of those years was spent as a model maker.
I would offer you the advise of once you have been proven "WRONG" on basic facts then attack on manners of mere trivia, but I see you've already picked up on that.

Who is Shiva ?